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Qwen3.8 27B is an open-weights language model from Alibaba, released August 2026. Its published size is 27.3B parameters and a 262k-token context window. Licence: apache-2.0.
$ how it compares
The LLMs ranked either side of Qwen3.8 27B, out of 828 with a score, then more from Alibaba.
| # | model | score | where | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 57 | 74±1 | api $2.15/M +local | |||
| 58 | 74±2 | comparison only | |||
| 59 | 73±1 | api $1.60/M +local | |||
| 60 | 73±2 | api $1.56/M | |||
| 61 | 73±1 | api $1.71/M +local | |||
| more from Alibaba | |||||
| 18 | 78±1 | api $3.00/M +local | |||
| 34 | 76±1 | api $3.00/M | |||
| 37 | 75±1 | local | |||
$ what it's good at
agent tasks▁▁▃▆█▆▅▅▅▄▃▁ #45 of 300 · 29% of its score · 8 tests
Beats Gemini 3.1 Pro (Preview), Muse Spark 1.2, Muse Spark 1.1 here, though they rank higher overall. Trails Claude Sonnet 4.6 here, though they rank lower overall.
| test | result | vs the others in its run | counts |
|---|---|---|---|
| Arena Agent (October 2026 aggregate IPS) | -0.0166 IPS ✎ | ▁▁▁▄▂▃▇█▂▂▁▃ beats 14/49 | 10% |
| SWE-bench Pro public set, Qwen-refined lab +1 | 61.7% ✎ | ▂·····▂·▂█▃▅ beats 10/12 | 5.2% |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 lab | 73.0% ✎ | ▁·▁·▁▁▄▃▄█▃▇ beats 37/56 | 3.5% |
| SWE-bench Multilingual lab | 73.8% ✎ | ▁··▁▃▂▅▇█▃▃▁ beats 40/60 | 3.2% |
| Thinkingbox-bench pass@1 (507 stateful business-workflow agent tasks, N=20) | 51.7% ✎ | ▅··▃·▃·█▃▅██ beats 9/15 | 2.4% |
| OSWorld-Verified lab | 84.3% ✎ | █▄·▂▆▂▄▂▆▄▆█ beats 23/25 | 2.0% |
| WebArena-Verified lab | 64.8% ✎ | █···█······█ beats 2/2 | 1.3% |
| DeepSWE v1.1 (resolved) lab | 42.2% ✎ | ▂····▃▁▁▆██▆ beats 2/28 | 0.8% |
coding▁▁▁▃▆██▇▆▄▃▁ #31 of 458 · 27% of its score · 6 tests
Beats GPT-5.5, GPT-5.6 Terra, Claude Opus 4.8 here, though they rank higher overall.
| test | result | vs the others in its run | counts |
|---|---|---|---|
| Arena WebDev (Code Arena) | 1591.2 ✎ | ▁▂▄▃▅█▄▇▆▄▁▁ beats 94/119 | 9.1% |
| LiveCodeBench v6 (window unspecified) lab +1 | 90.3% ✎ | ▃▅█▅▅▃▅···▃█ beats 14/16 | 5.3% |
| SWE-bench Pro public set, Qwen-refined lab +1 | 61.7% ✎ | ▂·····▂·▂█▃▅ beats 10/12 | 5.2% |
| Luau Leetcode fully solved (Torpedo Software) | 64.9% ✎ | ▁▁▁▁·▁▂▃▅▃█▇ beats 16/49 | 3.8% |
| SWE-bench Multilingual lab | 73.8% ✎ | ▁··▁▃▂▅▇█▃▃▁ beats 40/60 | 3.2% |
| DeepSWE v1.1 (resolved) lab | 42.2% ✎ | ▂····▃▁▁▆██▆ beats 2/28 | 0.8% |
chat & writing▁▁▁▃▅▄▅█▆▆▇▃ #68 of 393 * · 5.1% of its score · 1 test
Beats GPT-5.2 here, though they rank higher overall. Trails Nemotron Cascade 2 30B-A3B, Gemma 4 31B, Gemini 2.5 Pro here, though they rank lower overall.
| test | result | vs the others in its run | counts |
|---|---|---|---|
| LMArena (text) | 1437.7 ✎ | ▁▁▁▂▃▃▃▆▆▇█▃ beats 296/379 | 5.1% |
vision & documents▁▁▃▂▁▃▄▂▆▇█▄ #39 of 147 · 15% of its score · 6 tests
Beats MiMo-V2.6-Pro, MiMo-V2.6-Flash (309B-A15B), DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision (Exp) here, though they rank higher overall. Trails Qwen3.6 Flash, Qwen3.6 Plus, Qwen3.5 397B-A17B here, though they rank lower overall.
| test | result | vs the others in its run | counts |
|---|---|---|---|
| CharXiv (reasoning questions) lab +1 | 83.7% ✎ | ▄▂▄▆▄▄▆··▄█▂ beats 18/21 | 7.9% |
| Arena vision (style controlled) | 1242.8 ✎ | ▁▁▂▂▂▂▄▅▅▆██ beats 96/145 | 3.5% |
| SciDocBench scientific-document workflows (overall, 496 instances) | 52.9% ✎ | ▃▃···█▃▅▃·▃▅ beats 5/11 | 1.7% |
| OmniDocBench 1.5 overall (higher is better) lab | 91.1% ✎ | ▂··▂▂▂··▂▂█▅ beats 12/13 | 1.5% |
| RealWorldQA lab | 85.9% ✎ | ▂▃▂█▃██▆█▂▆▆ beats 37/38 | 0.5% |
| PureDocBench document parsing (Avg3 over Clean/Digital/Real) | 77.6% ✎ | ▂·▁·▂▂▅█·▁▃▂ beats 20/22 | 0.1% |
other tests9 not in a task · 33% of its score
| test | result | vs the others in its run | counts |
|---|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond lab +1 | 89.2% ✎ | ▁▁▁▁▂▄▅▅███▄ beats 259/310 | 12% |
| Humanity's Last Exam lab +1 | 30.8% ✎ | ▁▁▁▃▆▆▇██▆▁▃ beats 75/104 | 6.4% |
| IFBench (aggregation unspecified) lab +1 | 79.5% ✎ | ▃▇▂▄▅▅▂▄▄▆█▇ beats 73/80 | 3.8% |
| BRIDGE clinical text, zero-shot average (87 tasks) | 46.6% ✎ | ▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▃▄▆█▃ beats 95/97 | 2.9% |
| NL2Repo lab | 42.3% ✎ | ▂▂·▂▂▄█▆▆▂▄▆ beats 11/21 | 2.5% |
| Open Persian LLM Leaderboard v2 average (21 tasks) | 76.0% ✎ | ▂▄▂▃█▄▃▆▃▅▂▃ beats 79/81 | 1.4% |
| RobloxQA v2.0 multiple choice (Torpedo Software) | 90.8% ✎ | ▁▁▃▁█▄▃▃▆▂▂▂ beats 18/49 | 1.3% |
| ERQA lab | 65.5% ✎ | ▃··▃··█·▃█▅▅ beats 10/12 | 1.3% |
1 more test
| test | result | vs the others in its run | counts |
|---|---|---|---|
| AndroidWorld lab | 81.9% ✎ | ▁·▁▁▂▃█▅▂▂·▃ beats 24/24 | 1.0% |
$ where to run it
Through an API
api · Groq · $1.60/M · $0.8 in / $4 out per 1M tokens · 262k context · console.groq.com ↗ · price sourceStandard base token rate from models.dev. Provider-specific tiers, long-context surcharges, caching and promotions may differ.
llama.cpp · recommended
version
- Install llama.cpp · Homebrew and winget installs name the commands llama-cli and llama-server instead.macOS / Linux
curl -LsSf https://llama.app/install.sh | shWindowsirm https://llama.app/install.ps1 | iex - Run Qwen3.8 27B · needs ~19 GB · from huggingface.co/ggml-orgchat in the terminal
llama cli -hf ggml-org/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF:Q4_K_M - Or start a local server and open the address it prints (http://localhost:9931)
llama serve -hf ggml-org/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF:Q4_K_M
LM Studio
version
- Install LM Studio · Open the app once before using the lms command.
- Run Qwen3.8 27B · needs ~19 GB · from huggingface.co/ggml-org
- Or download it in the terminal
lms get https://huggingface.co/ggml-org/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF@Q4_K_M -y - Then run lms ls to see its name, and lms chat followed by that name
Ollama
version
- Install Ollama
download it (macOS / Windows) ↗
Linuxcurl -fsSL https://ollama.com/install.sh | sh - Run Qwen3.8 27B · needs ~16.88 GB · from ollama.comchat in the terminal
ollama run qwen3.8:27b
MLX (Mac)
version
- Install MLX (Mac) · Apple silicon Macs only, text only.with uv
uv tool install mlx-lmorpip install mlx-lm - Run Qwen3.8 27B · needs ~16.1 GB, Mac only · from huggingface.co/lmstudio-communitychat in the terminal
mlx_lm.chat --model lmstudio-community/Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-4bit - Or start an OpenAI-compatible server at http://localhost:8080/v1
mlx_lm.server --model lmstudio-community/Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-4bit
Official weights and documentation: huggingface.co/Qwen ↗
$ how the score was worked out · Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B model card 31%, LMArena leaderboard dataset 28%, Qwen (Alibaba) vendor-reporte… 28% and 6 more
Each result implies a score on its own, after adjusting for how hard its test is and who ran it. The score is their weighted average, with a small pull toward the middle for thinly tested models. Each test's weight is its counts column above; here it's added up by who ran the tests. How it works
$ published speed measurements · 4
Reference results for the hardware, engine and settings below. They aren't verified speeds of the downloads above or predictions for your machine.
| AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 (Strix Halo), Radeon 8060S iGPU; Beelink GTR9 Pro 128GB | Q4_K_M | 20.42 tok/s | Ollama 0.32.13 system service, Ollama Vulkan RADV · Ollama API generation rate (eval tokens/s) as tabulated; prompt 45 tokens; context window setting 4096; one request at a time unless notes say otherwise; generated-token count not tabulated Ollama API eval rate from the guide's structured table; warm-run means where the note says so. Row date 2026-08-15, status measured-local, kernel 7.0.0-28-generic, driver stack Mesa 26.1.6 kisak. Author note: Official 27.3B dense multimodal Ollama route; 9 warm API repeats after one cold load; 19.85-20.79 t/s generation range; 100% GPU reported; image text tool-call thinking and exact-retrieval smokes passed through 50059 evaluated prompt tokens; a 56051-token attempt caused a recoverable Vulkan DeviceLost; broad quality and advertised 262K context remain unqualified. | source ↗ |
| Apple M5 Pro (64GB; CPU/GPU core counts not stated) | GGUF Q8_0 | 3.8 tok/s | llama.cpp server (Metal; --parallel 4 slots; build not stated) · agent split (BFCL V3, Hermes, ClawsBench; 0.3K-8.9K input tokens; agent context raised to 16384 for llama.cpp/ollama/vllm-metal); SiliconBench harness (benchmark commit 616aa51c); 100 prompts per level after 3 warmup requests; closed loop at concurrency 1 (one request in flight); temperature 0, non-thinking generation; output throughput = total generated tokens / measured sweep wall time, so it includes prefill/TTFT and HTTP overhead (not a pure decode rate); runs of 2026-08-24/25 Concurrency-1 cell of the 64GB memory-ceiling study; 100/100 requests succeeded. omlx streams ~2 tokens per SSE chunk (paper caveat on its ITL, not throughput). | source ↗ |
| Apple M5 Pro (64GB; CPU/GPU core counts not stated) | MLX 8-bit (mlx-community conversion) | 3.9 tok/s | vllm-metal (Metal; version not stated) · agent split (BFCL V3, Hermes, ClawsBench; 0.3K-8.9K input tokens; agent context raised to 16384 for llama.cpp/ollama/vllm-metal); SiliconBench harness (benchmark commit 616aa51c); 100 prompts per level after 3 warmup requests; closed loop at concurrency 1 (one request in flight); temperature 0, non-thinking generation; output throughput = total generated tokens / measured sweep wall time, so it includes prefill/TTFT and HTTP overhead (not a pure decode rate); runs of 2026-08-24/25 Concurrency-1 cell of the 64GB memory-ceiling study; 100/100 requests succeeded. omlx streams ~2 tokens per SSE chunk (paper caveat on its ITL, not throughput). | source ↗ |
| Apple M5 Pro (64GB; CPU/GPU core counts not stated) | MLX 8-bit (mlx-community conversion) | 4.7 tok/s | omlx (MLX; SSD prefix cache, in-memory tier disabled; version not stated); omlx default config (SSD-paged prefix cache, fresh cache dir + restart per level, no memory sidecar) · agent split (BFCL V3, Hermes, ClawsBench; 0.3K-8.9K input tokens; agent context raised to 16384 for llama.cpp/ollama/vllm-metal); SiliconBench harness (benchmark commit 616aa51c); 100 prompts per level after 3 warmup requests; closed loop at concurrency 1 (one request in flight); temperature 0, non-thinking generation; output throughput = total generated tokens / measured sweep wall time, so it includes prefill/TTFT and HTTP overhead (not a pure decode rate); runs of 2026-08-24/25 Concurrency-1 cell of the 64GB memory-ceiling study; 100/100 requests succeeded. omlx streams ~2 tokens per SSE chunk (paper caveat on its ITL, not throughput). | source ↗ |
$ quantization evidence · 16 measurements
How much of the full-precision result a quantized version kept, measured within one study. Rows from the same study share a table and aren't independent.
| precision | test | full → quantized | kept | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| INT4 W4A16 (AWQ smoothing + GPTQ, symmetric, group 128; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP, linear-attention in_proj_a/b and some linear_attn modules unquantized per config; llm-compressor) | GSM8K-Platinum strict-match (lm-evaluation-harness, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.958 → 0.968 | 101.1% | source ↗ |
| INT4 W4A16 (AWQ smoothing + GPTQ, symmetric, group 128; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP, linear-attention in_proj_a/b and some linear_attn modules unquantized per config; llm-compressor) | IFEval prompt-level strict 0-shot (lm-evaluation-harness, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.922 → 0.919 | 99.7% | source ↗ |
| INT4 W4A16 (AWQ smoothing + GPTQ, symmetric, group 128; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP, linear-attention in_proj_a/b and some linear_attn modules unquantized per config; llm-compressor) | MATH-500 pass@1 (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.837 → 0.833 | 99.5% | source ↗ |
| INT4 W4A16 (AWQ smoothing + GPTQ, symmetric, group 128; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP, linear-attention in_proj_a/b and some linear_attn modules unquantized per config; llm-compressor) | MMLU-Pro exact-match (lm-evaluation-harness, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.845 → 0.835 | 98.8% | source ↗ |
| INT4 W4A16 (AWQ smoothing + GPTQ, symmetric, group 128; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP, linear-attention in_proj_a/b and some linear_attn modules unquantized per config; llm-compressor) | AIME 2025 pass@1 (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 8 seeds) | 0.954 → 0.942 | 98.7% | source ↗ |
| INT4 W4A16 (AWQ smoothing + GPTQ, symmetric, group 128; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP, linear-attention in_proj_a/b and some linear_attn modules unquantized per config; llm-compressor) | GPQA Diamond pass@1 (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.892 → 0.879 | 98.5% | source ↗ |
| Mixed NVFP4/FP8 (MLP projections NVFP4 group 16; attention/linear-attention projections and last 8 MLP layers FP8 dynamic; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | IFEval 0-shot (lm-evaluation-harness, vLLM; reported metric variant not stated; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.912 → 0.92 | 100.9% | source ↗ |
| Mixed NVFP4/FP8 (MLP projections NVFP4 group 16; attention/linear-attention projections and last 8 MLP layers FP8 dynamic; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | MATH-500 0-shot (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.837 → 0.843 | 100.7% | source ↗ |
| Mixed NVFP4/FP8 (MLP projections NVFP4 group 16; attention/linear-attention projections and last 8 MLP layers FP8 dynamic; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | GSM8K-Platinum 0-shot (lm-evaluation-harness, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.963 → 0.967 | 100.5% | source ↗ |
| Mixed NVFP4/FP8 (MLP projections NVFP4 group 16; attention/linear-attention projections and last 8 MLP layers FP8 dynamic; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | GPQA Diamond 0-shot (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.896 → 0.892 | 99.6% | source ↗ |
| Mixed NVFP4/FP8 (MLP projections NVFP4 group 16; attention/linear-attention projections and last 8 MLP layers FP8 dynamic; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | AIME 2025 0-shot (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 8 seeds) | 0.967 → 0.95 | 98.3% | source ↗ |
| MXFP4 W4A4 (FP4 weights and activations, group 32; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | MATH-500 pass@1 (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.837 → 0.847 | 101.2% | source ↗ |
| MXFP4 W4A4 (FP4 weights and activations, group 32; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | IFEval prompt-level strict 0-shot (lm-evaluation-harness, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.912 → 0.909 | 99.7% | source ↗ |
| MXFP4 W4A4 (FP4 weights and activations, group 32; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | GSM8K-Platinum strict-match 0-shot (lm-evaluation-harness, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.963 → 0.952 | 98.9% | source ↗ |
| MXFP4 W4A4 (FP4 weights and activations, group 32; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | GPQA Diamond pass@1 (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 3 seeds) | 0.896 → 0.877 | 97.9% | source ↗ |
| MXFP4 W4A4 (FP4 weights and activations, group 32; AWQ smoothing + GPTQ; FP8 static per-tensor KV cache; lm_head, vision encoder, MTP and linear-attention in_proj_a/b unquantized; llm-compressor) | AIME 2025 pass@1 (lighteval, vLLM; mean of 8 seeds) | 0.967 → 0.925 | 95.7% | source ↗ |
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